The Pelvic Floor – a draughty window or something more…???

Pelvic Floor Physiotherapist

Julie Wiebe

This post was inspired by Tweets from Julie Wiebe (www.juliewiebept.com).

To quote Julie from Twitter…the question was “What specific conditions do you think need specialist WH Physio care?”

I think the answer [to] that can’t be a formula and I think if we can change how we address MSK & pelvic floor and treat them together from the get go then women wouldn’t end up [with] the really awful stuff that internal [physios] have to sort thru. When I give courses I equate it to a drafty window that eventually turns into a huge reno project [because] the true issue wasn’t addressed early. Let’s normalize the pelvic floor, integrate it early in MSK and see if we can avoid the major reno projects internal therapists are seeing. Your thoughts?
My Thoughts:
I have been thinking about this for a little while.
Firstly, Julie is absolutely correct. Sometimes we see the problem (a draughty window) and we try to fix it. Doctors will say “oh, you can’t hold your bladder? Go see a WH physio” and then it becomes a “pelvic floor” problem, the patient doesn’t improve and doesn’t go back to the physio, gets referred for and has surgery (the big renovation) and a little while later the same problem is back… This is not a good result!
Julie’s suggestion to “normalize the pelvic floor” is correct as well. The problem has been that this can be hard to do. The pelvic floor could be the victim or it could be the primary problem. Let’s go through some brief examples but first a quick revision of the philosophy I use…
You may remember from other posts that I like to look at problems in a holistic manner. That means looking at:
1. The person’s story, what has meaning to them, their virtual body representation, their goals of treatment and their emotions.
2. Articular System – bones, ligaments, cartilage, etc
3. Myofascial System – muscles, fascia, tendons, associated soft tissues
4. Neural System – Brain, spinal cord, nerves, coordination
5. Visceral System – internal organs and their associated soft tissues
6. Strategies for Performance and Function – how the patient does what they do
The Pelvic Floor as the Primary Problem.
 If the pelvic floor is the Primary (main) problem, it means that it is responsible for initiating the cascade of reactions that are ending up causing the symptoms. Some examples of this are:
1. A physical tear of one of the pelvic floor muscles or their attachment to the bones
2. Local nerve damage causing dysfunctional pelvic floor contraction
3. A truly weak pelvic floor
I know this is a limited list but I am struggling to find other problems. e.g. coordination issue is actually a neural issue to do with the brain, a fractured pelvis is not a pelvic floor problem as the primary. In any case, if I find a Primary Problem Pelvic Floor, I refer to a Women’s Health (WH) Physio. I am happy to take  suggestions here for other conditions that require WH Physio…
The Pelvic Floor as a Secondary Problem
Now this part of the post is much easier! This is where a primary problem somewhere in the body impacts the pelvic floor in some way. Until you fix the primary problem, it will continue to affect the pelvic floor. Often, misdiagnosis of the pelvic floor as the Primary Problem results in frustration for the patient, therapist and doctor. If this happens, refer to a suitably qualified Musculoskeletal (MSK) Physio!!!
For me and my practice, the most common Primary problems come from around the pelvic region generating intra-abdominal pressure and so put pressure on the pelvic floor. Some examples:
1. Thorax and Lumbar dysfunctions – non-optimal biomechanics causing excessive activity of diaphragm, obliques or rectus abdominis with erector spinae tone. This can cause all sorts of secondary problems, one of which is a pelvic floor that appears to be weak but is really just tired of putting up with all this pressure from above! Or you can have asymmetrical pulling on the pelvic floor causing dysfunction.
2. Pelvic and hip dysfunctions – similar to above but sometimes dysfunctions can cause biomechanical disadvantages for the pelvic floor, compensations from other muscles bearing down to try stabilise a dysfunctional segment, altered neural input, etc etc
How do I manage these 2 different presentations?
Firstly, you have to diagnose correctly whether your patient’s pelvic floor symptoms are truly a pelvic floor problem (primary problem) or whether the pelvic floor is affected by other problems (secondary problem).
Next, you then have to decide if you have the skills to deal with the primary problem. I know my strengths and weaknesses. I will give a patient a small amount of time to develop her endurance and strength if I feel that is the primary. If I feel that she has a myofascial or neural problem or associated visceral problems (bladder or uterine prolapse), then off to the WH physio she goes.
If a patient has a primary problem elsewhere, I have 1-3 sessions to prove to the patient and to myself that I am on track. Otherwise I refer them on. If it truly is a Primary problem elsewhere, you should see evidence of change within the session and between sessions.
Management involves treatment of the relevant components of their problem (articular, myofascial, neural, visceral, strategy, person in centre of puzzle). This should then allow proper coordination of the pelvic floor to occur. Once that does normalize, I develop strength and endurance and ensure that this develops during their meaningful functional tasks.
I must repeat, this should happen relatively soon. If it doesn’t, you haven’t got the primary problem. Having said that, it can take time for muscles to develop etc but you should see steady, consistent improvements. If you have improvements that go back down to near your baseline measures, you don’t have the primary problem.
Check your ego at the door!
I believe that this is a lesson that most physios can learn. I know I have had to. Not knowing how to do something well does not mean that you are an ineffective physiotherapist. How you deal with a patient who doesn’t respond as expected is a measure of how good a physio you really are!
In Australia, we have 3-4 tiers of physios – Your regular physio with a bachelors (or now graduate entry masters), a Titled Physiotherapist who has a clinical masters or equivalent, specialists in training (me) who have the title of Associate of the College of Physiotherapists (but are still just titled physiotherapists) and Specialists.
Ideally, physiotherapists would refer difficult patients to Titled Physiotherapists for an opinion and a plan and Titled Physiotherapists would refer to Specialists (or specialists in training) for those that they can’t work out. It is like a General Practitioner doctor referring to Specialists – in Australian Physiotherapy, we have the Titled Physiotherapists in between.
When I refer someone, I send a letter explaining what I have found, what I would like assessed and for them to do what they think is necessary, just let me know what is going on.
When I get someone, I do the same back…so long as I know that is what they want! Sometimes I get nothing from the referring physio! They seem to want me to just take over…so I do…but no one learns!
Your patient knows you are a good physio and will actually appreciate your efforts to find someone who can help them. They will not appreciate you if you write them off as difficult or hold onto them as your patient for too long.
Conclusions:
1. Accurate diagnosis is so important to finding out if the Pelvic Floor is the Primary Problem or a Secondary Problem.
2. Once you have identified the Primary Problem, you should address it holistically and see improvements within 1-3 sessions.
3. If you don’t see consistent improvements, refer to someone else to check your work. This is actually being a good physio!!!
4. Check your ego at the door. You are there to help your client. Find other physios you can liase with to help you – no one is the complete package!
Please leave your thoughts below. A tough but interesting post to write!

How I work with pelvic floor physios

Thinking Girl

Who should I see about my problems?

FAQ: Who should you see if you have problems with your pelvic floor?

This is a great question. Ideally, you would see a physiotherapist who has had extensive Musculoskeletal (MSK) Physiotherapy training AND training in Women’s Health (WH) Physiotherapy. Unfortunately, there aren’t too many of these physios around. They are definitely out there but not all MSK physios know about the pelvic floor very well and not all WH Physios know about the rest of the MSK system.

Also, in my opinion, a thorough understanding of the thorax and pelvis is lacking among physiotherapists. I know for a fact that most Masters programs do not address these 2 areas very well. As an exercise (if you are a health professional), close your eyes and imagine the anatomy of the knee – most physios can picture this in good detail with bones, ligaments, cartilage and muscles all in the right place. Now do the same with the thorax…not so clear huh? Can you name all 13 joints that exist for the 4th Thoracic Ring (T3, T4, L+R 4th rib, Sternum)? I rest my case!

What I am good at…

I look at a person holistically – for a review of this, click here - and consider what regions are important to look at. For example, a patient might come in with difficulty controlling the bladder during exercise. Is it a joint, muscle, nerve, visceral or brain/beliefs problem? Is their pelvic floor strong enough? Does it relax enough? Is it on too long or too hard? Is it under pressure from other muscles or joints? Is the pelvic floor actually damaged?

All of these things are important to identify and investigate.

How I am Incomplete…

Now, the way that things work is this: If I want to be trained in Women’s Health, I have to do courses. However, whilst they would let me do the theory, it has been suggested to me that it would be highly unlikely that the other participants would allow me to do the internal examination practicals that I would need to do to learn. In theory, there are male obstetricians so male WH physios shouldn’t be a problem. In theory, it is sexist and discriminatory. In reality, I don’t mind. There are plenty of good female therapists around who I can refer to. I don’t need to be able to do internal examinations to be a good physio. I can live without the fear of being sued or charged with sexual assault!! There is enough work for everyone so let’s just share the love!!

Sharing the Love – I refer patients to good WH physios!

So, when there is a patient who looks like their primary problem is a damaged pelvic floor, I refer them to a WH physio I can trust. I will always check all the MSK systems to make sure that I have taken care of everything I need to make the WH physio’s job easier. I also write a letter explaining what I have found and what I think the potential problems may be and specific issues I would like an opinion on.

What I would like to see from WH physios…

Too often, patients get categorised into a WH physio problem or a MSK physio problem. This is an issue because it isn’t a holistic approach.

The type of WH patients I can help are those that don’t seem to be improving their bladder/bowel control, have an endurance problem, have pain…basically anyone who is not improving!

If you are a suffering from pelvic floor issues and your treatment doesn’t seem to be working, then ask your WH physio for a MSK physio referral. If you need help finding one, just ask me!

A holistic approach - is your therapist using it?

Conclusion:

Better understanding between MSK physios and WH physios needs to occur. Thankfully, the last 15 years has seen a great improvement in the communication between the 2 groups!

If you are a women’s health physio, I invite you to comment below and make sure you add your website or FB/Twitter page to your comments. That way, patients can locate you!

If you are a patient who has issues with your pelvic floor, please feel free to ask questions below about who you should see. Any good physio would be ok with you asking if a referral to a MSK or WH physio would be helpful :)

Remember, 1 in2 to 1 in 3 women will have pelvic floor issues in their lifetime. Let’s solve the problem, not just use panty liners!

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